Yeah I totally agree with you cheekisquirrel. O.c's should be put in there proper spot. Let's face it, when people go into certian anime sections they want to see characters from that anime. Although as it was pointed out earlier, there could be copy right problems with this, but it could be easly fixed by adding a disclaimer! Well that's my two cents! It's an adorable picture!
I agree at some point with ya. But I think ur ocs' are Too CUTE! I have oc's(crappy scanner doesn't run the same program) I don't have the "oh-so-wonderful" ones. I tend to put drama, character depth and interest depending on people's views with my own. I think your's are better than mine really! U draw like an ART-SAINT!!! Anyway, I just wanted to express my opinion. Go Cheeki-sensei!!!
I agree with you but, I think your oc characters are cute with the other anime characters.
I draw my o.cs as wolves and sometimes i put them in the naruto or whatever but, mostly i put them in the normal selection.
I completely understand Cheeki and i see some oc's that are..sick but, there are some oc's that cute even your own.
I agree with you and if you ever need someone to talk to, I'm always here for you. ^^*votes and fav*
Cheeki.. I don't hate or getting sick of o.c's. Hate is posion and never stop creating a character. You love to draw and nothing won't change that. You have a very creative mind of fantastic characters and wonders.
Everyone loves your drawings and your o.cs. Never stop drawing, drawing is your life. I feel your pain Cheeki-san.*hugs you*
I totally agree with spacecowboytv.
Great picture thought, you always have beautiful pictures Cheeki. ^^
I agree with you on this point. But now they have added the fan character section and such. But I believe that if a character from the show is in you pic, it could be put either way.
I didn't come to argue! I think your picture is great and funny!
this is a really cute picture, i like it! all the characters are so adorable! though i'm sry to say, i don't agree with you. i think oc's should be put in the place among where they spawned!
.::Uramihcoro::.
This picture is really adorable ^^ Lemmee squeez them :D Any-who.. Well heres my opinion! Who cares about O.C.S. They're just drawings not like they ever harmed anyone. You know there are other things to be annoyed by. C'mon! People just get over the fact people don't use the Original Anime Catagory!!!! Its silly to get bent by a stupid o.c.s P()q
i completely agree! now i cant think of much to put, like those other people, but i like the fact you can freely state your opinion. after all, the people who created the anime didnt create our characters, we did!, and we didnt create theirs! separate them! anyways, i LOVE you pic. if i try to draw that, it would turn out WAY crappy!lol^^ see ya!
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We really can't take credit for the anime.
That'd be plagarism.
And I'm sure you wouldn't want us all to go to jail for saying that our character for an anime is ours and the storyline is too.
plagarusm is illegal.
and i respect your opinion.
But practice what you preach.
That's being very hypocritical when one of your last pictures was an Oc in fact.
So deary,
if you wish to get your point across better it'd be wise to set an example rather than being a hypocrit.
oh boy!
well i hate to tell everyone here who is anti-OC but as long as the fangirl lives then the OCs live. you CANT tell me that you've NEVER even considered making an OC in your life. as a creative individual you will get a craving to add something new to the table.
The problem isn't OCs it's the way they're portrayed. I think that in many "purist" eyes as soon as they see "OC" it translates to "Mary-Sue" w/o even thinking of taking a look and reading the short bio that the creator took time to add in. Yes, most OCs are Mary-sues because, for mostly younger fangirls, they're easy to make. a beautiful girl the same race and oh so perfect and the bishonen of choice instantly falls in love w/ her despite his real personality or cannon love intrest. I dunno about the rest of you but an OC only annoys me if the other character is in love w/ her... just because!
Story has everything to do w/ OCs. It separates the mature and good OCs from the immature Mary-sue.
I wont sit here an pretend like i dont make OCs that fall in love w/ cannon characters, we all do or did at one point. as far as categorizing goes, i dont care! put it in OA and flood it or put it in the other anime w/e makes you happy or whereever you think it deserves to be. i put requests of fan characters in the anime i was told they where from because it was important enough to them to tell me what anime they are from.
I say draw what you want. it shouldnt be a popularity contest. and to Cheeki: dont stop drawing what you want just cause a few ppl say they dont like OCs. screw them. it's not their choice it's yours. i strongly doubt you came to this conclusion yourself seeing as i saw a blog entry of yours saying how someone told you OCs are bad and you started to back down from supporting OCs. dont let ppl push you around do what you want it's your art not theirs.
Sinbad of Sindria (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/29/07 | Reply
I gotta agree with you I am sick of O.C. characters as well, however, I don't mind seeing them IF there were in the right catergory so what if they supposely come from for instance, FMA, they are your original and need to be in that catergory. You got my support all the way Cheeki!!!
I...Don't really have an opinion on this... I think that some of the o.c pics can be very adorable... But SOME of them...Are a bit... Uh...u know...sick... I make sure my pics are relatively normal 4 ur sakes as well as my own consciencs ^^'
i agree with misty aries , i would put my pics there, in an oc catagory ^_^
But I have no REAL opinion on this kinda thing
but u've got my vote on the colouring in this thing
No one's saying that you shouldn't draw OCs, OCs are fun. Just don't spam up the wrong anime sections with them! That's all we're asking. I know it's hard to get noticed in the OC section, but that's really no excuse for clogging the other sections with your misplaced drawings. It just means that we should all make an effort to check out the OC section too once in a while, that's really the only way to resolve it that keeps everyone happy.
uve got nerve ok?not alot of peepz can do or say this.but i dont agree with u.fur some people, drawing OC's are their life!!u cant just say ,oh u cant draw ure OC here anymore.and who looks at originl anime anywhoo?im sorry but i have a voice!cheesy line...
Hmmmmmm Has this been going on lately or is it just me.
Well I respect cheeki's opinion also. But yet I don't agree.
I really don't think its hurting anything. But hey if they want to put an oc thats in a catagory of a spicific anime then do it. There are rights.
phew man all we have is contraversy anymore. *sweat drops*
well i think that ocs are cool, its creative and fun to create your own characters, andnot everyone is submiting them in the anime categories to get votes, besides, cant someone draw whatever they want on this website, as long as it isnt overly offensive or anything. And besides, i thought the original anime category was for an anime actually created by an otaku artist. If you want them out of the anime they are supposed to be from categories, which i dont think is a big deal, there should be an oc catergory list. besides, i dont see what you mean by flooding, there arent usually that many per page, and all you need to do is skip over them. heh i was going to make some oc characters and submit them, but i guess that because nobody likes them, its pointless right?
mmm...I like the art, but not the message. Yeah, O.Cs are annoying at times but you really just gotta ignore them. Putting this up was really asking for a fight and showing you actually care. Yeah, there everywhere, but so is Naruto. Along with Narutards. You kinda brought out the bad side of the fellow otakuites,legends, and seniors. Which amazes me since everyone is usually very nice on the otaku, pretty bad when MOD comes out to slap our wrists T_T
Yeah, to stop the war I'd put a OC category, then again I think it would just as crammed as the Naruto section, what would make a difference?
Really people, TO GET NOTICED??To get...noticed...thats pretty bad when we can't support each other without worrying what the series is. Your right spacecowboy, its always one series gets more votes than the others. Naruto, being the hip and happinin series if the time will always get more votes than if I put another fan art up? *thumbs down* thats sad. Thats very sad. I'm officially disapointed in the fan art section.
I love the chracters ^_^ your Ed is cute ^^
Sold my soul (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/26/07 | Reply
hmm..
the one problem with an 'Original Character' section would be that every OC from each category would be crammed into one.
Right now people put their OCs in various places,their spawn section,Original Anime,Misc anime,and crossover anime.They are all spread out so much it seems there are less.
But all of them in one O_O;;
ouch.
hmm.
one of my ideas is to have a OC category for the most popular categories (ex. Naruto OCs,Fan Mews)
but that idea went down the drain...
O~O;;
hmm...this is quite hard xD!
PS.
I noticed Naruto is missing his whiskers...:/
I like the coloring though!
TimberWolf is totally right. It should not be all about the votes. But what I liked most of all was that THE VERY FIRST THING SHE SAID WAS A COMMENT ON HOW GOOD THE ART WAS. Thank you, TimberWolf, for giving such good insight, and for actually noticing the picture itself :]
-SuperSaiyanJounin
Cherryshock If you wish to discuss this with me then by all means send me a pm.
But I am serious. NO MORE SWEARING. I do not want to see more pointless comments calling others vulgar names.
I think all of you know perfectly well exactly what the warning is for.
SunfallE
Sold my soul (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/26/07 | Reply
:/
Moderator,
Some of us HAVE been taking consideration into what they say.
Though I have made some uncalled for remarks,I will continue to discuss this further among my fellow otakus.
I think this is an excellent oppurtunity to use our noodles .:]
-sincerely,
Cherryshock
I'm only going to say this once due to the sheer amount of flaming/swearing comments I've had to trim out of this discussion.
If this ridiculous behavior continues action will be taken. I expect all of you to discuss this in a more calm and rational manner and leave the pointless snipping and swearing behind.
SunfallE
P.S. Sorry about making my previous comment so long ^^; I was just inspired by this debate. Also, I did forget to mention something. CheekiSquirrel, no matter what your opinion is on this, I love the art itself. The chibis all look very adorable, and I love everyone's expressions. Also, I love how the signs correspond to the anime categories. I voted and favorited not for the opinion, but for the art itself. Maybe the rest of you should do the same.
-SuperSaiyanJounin
wow, i am in total agreement with Ami. People's original artwork really doesn't get noticed very much. If ocs that people have come to know get put in that section, it will draw more people to it. You have a great point Cheeki!
~UzK
Well, this is definitely an interesting argument, even if I never imagined it would actually happen o_0
Although I remain relatively neutral, as you will see later, spacecowboytv has a very good point. Many people are limited in their access to anime and manga, which is why Naruto and Full Metal Alchemist are so popular - they are some of the few anime shows easily found on American televisions (I only say American because that is the only country I can give definite opinion on).
There are very valid points on both sides. Although the character does not belong to the anime, thus a reason to put it in Original Anime, it is also not from an original anime but an idea from a current one, thus a reason to put it under the inspired anime.
I, like some people I have seen, agree with both CheekiSquirrel and Cherryshock. CheekiSquirrel is right in the sense that the OCs are now beginning to dominate the categories they are placed in. Also, if the characters are original, then they COULD be placed under Original Anime. However, I do believe that if something is inspired by an existing anime, it could also be placed there as well.
However, if anyone was paying attention, Saiyukiluver came up with a brilliant compromise. Why not put it in Crossover Anime? Because the character is original and the show it came from is not, it is a mix of originality and the anime, so crossover seems to fit perfectly. So I must side with Saiyukiluver on this one. It is a way to not flood anime sections, and no one wins or loses in this.
Also, since when did theOtaku become political? This site was made so that anime lovers could all come to the same place to talk, draw, and submit all kinds of great creations. Since when does the way we submit our art make a difference on whether or not the art is of quality or not? Instead of getting mad at each other for being different simply in the petty sense that we put OCs in different categories, why can we not get along because we all love anime and art, and should be able to appreciate it no matter WHERE it goes?
-SuperSaiyanJounin
I'm sure there is limitless amount of space in each anime category. Why can't we shove a few OC's in there? It doesn't really hurt anyone. If yah don't wana see an OC, then don't click on the preview. Simple as that.
Okay, so what some people are saying is that put OC's in the OA section, so you won't have to look at them? Yeah, because that is totally gonna make us listen to you. >_>
THANK YOU!!!! JESUS FRIKING CHRIST! I'm been sick and tired of O.C's spaming the anime categories, me, and a bunch of people, could honestly care less about peoples "original character" Thanks again.
p.s. Not ment to offend you I love your drawing style, but your characters, well Carmen anyway, seem a bit Mary-Sue-ish ^^;; keep drawing though, your awesome at it!
~Cyn
The Itsufer (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/26/07 | Reply
....0o....wow this is a popular one^^ I think it's cute and funny^^ I have always loved your work..and this is so cute! I agree...I just wish I could other character other than my own:P
Hi ^^
I guess I agree.. OC's are just in the way and making the story a little hard to get into, especially if there are 3 or more of them ^^ btw.. I really Love this pic! >,<
You draw great, and again: You are right, put them in the Original Anime Category!!! ^^
i have one more point to make, because i am to the point where i am frustrated to tears.
ocs are characters we love, correct? why are we arguing? if ocs are so bad, then why does anybody bother watching anime? why? (this is not directed towards cheeki, whom still agrees in drawing ocs, this is to ppl who hate them all together) because if anyone decides to read up on fav artists, they used to do the same thing. believe me, i'm an anime freak.
lemme ask you guys something. (i'm going to be rude, so i forwarn anyone) those of u who hate ocs, can you draw? can u write? my gut feeling, probably not. u don't know wat it's like. u don't.
i'm going to tell ppl, i used to act out animes, pretending i was in them. i stopped in sixth grade because i didn't want to be noted as a baby, (i pretended because i was noted to going to hell for my enjoyment in anime, and had little if any friends) those characters, they're dear to many ppl as they are dear to me. because it's like we're in the anime now. when we draw and write and make up these characters, i feel like i'm in the anime. like i'm out of the hell i live in.
i do think that if we place sub categories, it would make life alot happier for many ppl. but honestly, i nor cheeki can do that. if it pisses y'all so much, pm adam and whine to him.
thank u
haseo
Blah, tired as I was when I wrote my last piece, it has now occured to me that this is a drawing site. It's not a plot site. It's not a serise site (minus the fanmanga section, but that isn't where this controversy is, is it?). And it's not a fanfiction site. Sure, OC's have a tye to the original story ,which much make it fanficish, but why the hell do we care?!
IT'S AN ART SITE! For pete's sake go and look at the ART side of it! -_-;; What matter does it cause if it's in the stupid catigory? I remember before I was on this site, before i could vote, before I could comment, I'd go through EVERY page looking at peoples are in multipul catigories. :/ So, you know, just beause anO member isn't voting/commenting doesn't mean some kid someplace isn't going "ZOMFG!12!1wun l00k @ dat! :D I WANNA DO DAT MAN!". Okay? Also, people naturally go after two things. One, pictures that look nice, and two, catigories/characters that they like/understand. Which is why Naruto,FMA, and all those catigories are so ever popular. Plus, let's just be honest shall we? You can't draw a scribble and hope for it to be noticed, but that overlaps with the second ruling. If you draw a cruddy scribble in certain catigories, with certain people, yes it CAN infact get featured. Is that fair? In a sense, no, and in a sense yes. Why? Because the characters popular, and it doesn't mean that they purposely did it. I'm sorry that original styles aren't as popular, but that's life. Ontop of that, it's happened to me. Honestly, I was quite aggrivated. I have so many pictures that were better than it, but just because I used a two certain people (and most likely because I was screwing around with photoshop) it got featured. I was not happy. Mainly because at the same time I submitted that, I sumbitted one that I'd actually worked hard on.
Also, did anyone consider the bright side of the OC's going into the OA section? You're all so negative about your art being bumped down a spot. Guess what though? That would bring popularity TO the OA section. Not by pictures, but by people. People are going to want to see their OC's and in that way, may actually see someone elses art that they like, and it might be YOURS. So lay off on the idea, I can't tell you how many times I've posted a piece clicked the "preview button" to make sure its right, and then gone on to the OA section, and a voting afterwards. Why don't I do this more often? Used to, but I have a load of Gaia commisions to finish over the past week or so. So get over that some horrid OC may be beside your picture. It's art.
ART'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.
As for the whole "I want to get comments on how to improve!" thing...Eh, out of all the comments I've ever gotten I think one of them was going to help me improve. TheO really seems more for making friends and fans and just having fun with your pictures rather than getting serious feedback and commenting. You want that? Go to Gaia and ask their artist. You'll walk away thinking you suck seriously bad, but also finding every single little detail that could ever be wrong with your picture. TheO, as far as I've seen, won't get you anywhere. Gaia and my Quizilla thread is where I get my art advice, and then use it in the picture you see here...
And my God poor Cheeki. She's feeling horrible about this whole thing! D: *huggles Cheeki* It's not your fault, it was bound to happen eventually I guess. Maybe this'll start ending it though, and we don't have to deal with angry arguements anymore...Yeh? :/
um, i love cheeki's art, so i'm going to be nice in my comments (just for u cheeki, normally i would be mean).
oc does stand for original character, but it's a character that is in an already made anime. that's like making a doujishi. it's not to the story line of the original, but it's techincally not urs because it's borrowed. that's what basically our characters are. they're borrowed ideas. and if anything, there aren't that many ocs, w/the exception of naruto. that's wat's flooding this site more than ocs. and i know certain cases where someone has done something along these lines (putting a naruto oc into the original anime category RECENTLY) has gotten their head bitten off for it. by muliple ppl.
ocs take all the votes? pssh! maybe from you guys, but my ocs hardly get any, if any. (nobody state about my drawing sills, unless u are a critic, or have published something, i don't need anyone's sass!) and i know great artist's that don't get any regonition. NARUTO ocs is getting the attention. and that is everyone's fault for voting on them and commenting.
ocs are fine! they show are creativness! they're like fanfictions that have come to life! so wat, now ur asking for fanfictions to go under "original stories"? hell no, they're borrowed, as i've stated before.
tho i must confess, why are ppl making a big deal out of this? i'm stating my mind because i have three fanmangas and various fanfictions and i love my characters, you could say i've become attached to them. and i don't know about you guys, but most of my characters i created when i was litte, and i had no one else. i started fanfictions as a kid, not realizing it, and this controversy is really taking the fun out of something ppl enjoy. soemthing i personally enjoy. so, in a sense, what i so rudely have to say (i'm sorry cheeki) is
GROW UP, AND GET OVER IT!
thank u.
haseo
Cheeki never said to stop drawing your O.C.'s, she just simply said you should put them in original anime.
My feelings are that if you make a O.C. then it is yours to play around with, meaning that it is not stuck with the anime. I think making a O.C. for another anime just helps you get a story developed, so that you can finally get to a place where you can break away from that anime and make your own.
I don't hate O.C.'s, but I do agree with Cheeki, or the idea of another category.
Nice picture btw!!! I'll miss Kiyoko, I love how you drew her!!!
Wow,spacecowboytv ,you said EXACTLY what I wanted to say. :)
You are most definatly right.
We ALL need to take the extra time and look around the side at other people's artwork,other than just Naruto and the other top Animes.
Everyone here has great talent,and everyone deserves to be reconized!
There are TONS of submissions each day that don't even get looked at...
I know I'm going to go and look at all of the great drawings and talent my fellow Anime fans have.
Hope you do the same! ;)
~Chuugi~
Cute piccy. I totally agree with you. I've nothing much to say cause I'm in a hurry BTW. Well, OC's are just getting in the way. I also agree about putting them in the original anime catergory. Just... whatever.
YES! people, PLEASE, realize that just because you put "FMA" or "Naruto" in the title of your picture doesn't mean it automatically has some relation to FMA or Naruto or whatever!!!! Keep your damned OC's where they belong. They're called ORIGINAL CHARACTERS for a freakin reason!!!!
Voted and Favorited. Amen, THANK YOU CHEEKI!!!
aw, cheeki! you started a war! haha well I know you meant no harm.
I think that OC's based on other people's work have to be listed under that anime for copy right reasons? Not sure that it really matters though, and I fully understand your position.
I love your OC's - and pretty much anything you draw because youre a great artist. I am glad you are planning on focusing on other pics, but I hope you don't stop drawing what you like to draw!
anyways, I'm looking forward to more of your art and I hope this silly debate blows over so people can stop arguing and keep drawing lol!!
Hmm well I can't really say any thing on this matter. I really don't care what people do. I mean if you wanted to get technical they should just have a section for OCs for the other animes.
Other than that I don't mind the OCs I mean if some one puts it in that category then they do it. I mean I put mine in the anime which inspired them, but not often because I don't upload there. I mostly do Original anime with no anime dictating what I make the characters look like. I draw from my imagination and I don't get recognizing for it. I think I will take kiriyama kazuo up on her offer and move on to DeviantART. It is all good. I don't have to disagree or agree with anyone. I just wanted my opinion to be heard on this matter. Well that is all.
~Chimoko~
P.S. Cute picture.
... I think my eyes are bleeding...
I didn't want this to turn in to a big feud. I was just voicing my opinion.
An O.C. is an original character that you created, not the creator of the anime. So why does your creation belong in the anime creator's category? They have nothing to do with your character and they NEVER show up in the anime. There for, they are an original idea, from YOU... original!
*wishing I never put the picture up*
*sigh* People make Oc's to make themselves feel like they're part of the fun and to escape the real boring half-ass world we live in. They don't make them cause they think it's a horrible show that needs improvements. They just want to get away from the real world. Really people, what makes you think that?
The thing is...in school I really don't care at being invisible...I'm far from popularity and anyway I don't even want to be friend with popular peoples...however...doing arts to be popular? is that really what you do?...it's disgusting! I am in the original anime and videogame category(videogames that mostly no one likes) sinc eI'm here(and it's roughly a 3 years) and nobody ever notices me except my friends and some few who can reckognise my talent, but that doesn't mean in any way that I'll start making Naruto stuff for the sake of being noticed...if people doesn't notice me for my original work then screw this, at least some people watch and appreciate...I'm not popular(or I was not...I finished school since a while) at school but I remember that I was greatly noticed by everyone for my talents as a drawer. but I didn't have to begin drawing popular stuff to be noticed...it's comparable to selling yourself and that's very disgusting
Drawing is a question of heart, what you like, you draw because you like it or just want to express a feeling, to me, someone who draws to get noticed is not an artist but a prostitute!
And I guess peoples doesn't understand what I'm saying: I don't HATE O.C, I find them very annoying but that's just me...I stopped looking at the fanart section because it Crawls under all of these O.C...do them as you please I do tons of them too...only difference...I don't put them on the otaku because I don't claim it as something I created from a totally original story of mine...I claim it as a fan character for a fanfic. I don't forbid anyone to put more O.C...I ONLY EXPRESSED MY POINT!!!!! There is COUNTLESS peoples who keep BOTHERING me with this goddamn right to express amendment and I to can use it...I EXPRESS my opinion...doens't mean I haten you all..and I don't accept people telling me to screw myself...I don't hate any of you and respect your point of view...however today I got angry because people keep insulting me when I didn't insult anyone...heck I think it's a waste of time FOR ME...ya want to make Damn O.Cs them MAKE damn O.C I can't stop you but stop saying I'm a mean bastard for saying what I think when most of you DO THE EXACT SAME THING...and sometime even when you know it'll offend more than one person...Is it because you can't take being offended yourself? I don't know...
But Myotaku has lots of formidable artists who ONLY makes O.C that are inspired from another anime...is it painfull to make a SINGLE character that is NOT related to, by example, Naruto?
That's all I'm saying...and I can't take being insulted for that...If I insulted any of you in my way of thinking then I'm sorry, but I won'T apologize, I keep being insulted by people like you and you never apologize so...have a nice day in your fan lives and goodbye!
BTW, if there is someone who goes unnoticed, it's me!!!!
All I ever asked is for some people to pay more attention to my work and give me advices to improve...Damn I want to be an Illustrator goddamnit! No wonder I'm bitter with everyone on this community, nobody ever gives a damn about even commenting my stuff!
It's not because I'm not noticed that means I don't want to be!
Ah, don't we all love controversy in the morning...night...evening...Or whatever time you're reading this.
I've always put my OC's in the Original Art section. Simply because, well, O.C. stands for "ORGINAL CHARACTER". It sorta seemed to fit with "ORIGINAL art", you know? :/
Now, when I throw a character in there from the show, then it goes into the catigory the OC is from, and ONLY then. Otherwise, yea, it is just clogging up the seirse.
Honestly though, how many of us have OC's that aren't in those three catigories shown in the picture? Eh, plus Tokyo Mew Mew. I haven't seen many other OC's from other topics. Then again, I guess I dont' get on enough. :/
Still, I actuall think what Misty Aries said is brilliant. An OC catigory would be good, or at least a subcatigory in the actual catigory. Does anyone else agree with that? I think that she had a great idea. :3
Beacuse yea, I see what everyone else is saying too. I have original characters, completely original characters, and would be pretty angry if they were suddenly all bumped off the page by one sweap of OC's. I get both sides, and think that Misty's idea is best. Someone send the mods a request for a new catigory. xD Yea. :3 *nod*
What I think they are talking about is other characters for animes that are already here :3 What people could work on is original anime. Where people make their own characters WITH their own story! X3 Those are made of love! and a hella a lot interesting! =D
ok i agree with you and the other people. but think about this if no one did O.C's how would we get any new anime and manga? that just something for u to think on. but good pic its really funny
I don't mind OCs but they do get annoying. Even I hate my own at times! Hehehe. It gets old after seeing 375674484848 different OCs hanging off a single character. I think it should be placed in Crossover Anime because then you have your OC AND the series you like. And so what if a lot of people don't see it? Most of you draw for "fun" right?
original ANIME hun.
not original CHARATCERS
thats all i have to say.
learn to read.
just because you draw good doesnt mean you're always right.
besides.
o.c.s
wtf is the s
are you stupid?
k well yeah
bye
Sold my soul (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/25/07 | Reply
Digichan12,thankyou for the comment,I made the avi myself :]
i SINCERELY RESPECT CHEEKI's OPPINION,,,BUT!
that doesn't mean I have to agree with her.
]:
I think that it is wonderful that you are voicing you're opinion Cheeki.
but basically everything I thought of has been said. If you people are looking for a specific character, what do you think the search bar is for? I use that thing daily.
And like many have said if all the OC's are put into the original anime category they will be completely ignored, because most of you could care less about that category. Plus the category will be out of control.
But to be fair I somewhat agree with Cheeki. I don't mind looking at OC's myself. I love seeing what character's people have made.
My solution for everyone. Ignore the frickin category if you don't want to see it. Don't just look through the categories that you like most. Go through the recent fanart section and look at what all these talented artist are doing! There are many excelent pictures in the categories that are being ignored. Just check that section daily, there are only thirteen to fifteen pages! I go through the recent pictures just to give everyone a chance, no matter what category it is.
~Touke
i don't see any problem with it...they are after all, oc's for a certian anime. If you don't want to see them in the anime categories then don't look at them! i love seing what people have made up and making my own up, it's a fanart site, that's what it's here for!! *duh*
my advice: get over it cause i don't see anything changing...
ignoring the whole point of the pic though i will say it's a nice pic^^ i don't mean to sound rude, i was meerly voicing my opinion.
I agree only with Cherryshock, Mew Bubblegum, and misty aries. I totally disagree with--most of you.
Silent Reveries, first of all that "I'm annoyed by ocs wen I'm going through my favorite category thing" is nothing. That's the exact point of putting them there. Because I highly doubt your fav category is the OA. Complete point. See, if everyone put ocs into OA, and since that's not the most voted category, NOTHING would get votes. Not only that, but the OA would get more flooded than as is. You must be POPULAR and a GREAT ARTIST to ever get noticed anywhere these days, and espically in the OA section.
Omega Zero. I can't say how much I disagree with you. I take this PERSONAL because of the fact if i did put everything in the OA, that would be SUICIDE for me. And many many other artists out there. The ONLY WAY some of us get noticed is to do ocs and put them in popular sections. Otherwise, it's like we're not even HERE. Just like at school. If you're popular, everyone knows your there, even looks for you just to talk. Whilst for me and many others, KAPOOF! Invisible, and no one cares we're here.
Screw all you OC haters. Screw. You. All. You keep saying to make our own stories with those Ocs we make, but have you ever thought that Fanfics and Fan mangas are ALSO a way to show our love for a series? Fanart isn't the only way of showing the love. Besides, your say your annoyed by them, but think of it this way--if we put our OCs in the OA, you would never take a glance at them would you?! That's exactly my point. It's either be popular, never draw anything a little bit original, or never be noticed.
And STILL on the OC topic, people say that OCs are just run-offs of the actual anime chara is A GOD DAM* INSULT!!! Some of us take days, weeks, MONTHS sculpting out the complete result of an OC! We take our time to get them just right, and you insult us by saying OCs are a waste of time, and that they are never original?! I had spent all of last summer writing a Naruto fanfic which is over 100 pages now, and I love it to tears! I have been working my butt of making it, and I'm so proud, and you call it a waste of time! I say screw all of those OC haters out there! Screw you!
I can never say I will ever agree with CheekiSquirrel on this ONE BIT. That's one of my favorite pasttimes on theO, I LOVE looking at all those new OCs people have! It's so fun to see what people have come up with, and I don't think people should ever bow down to a poular's demand! "Annoyiing" my butt, "a waste of time" my butt, and "I AGREE with you, Cheeki" my @$$.
Go ahead and flame at me, anyone, I don't give a dam*!!
~LET OUR FREEDOM REIN!
burn it all. (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/25/07 | Reply
I guess i have to agree and disagree with you. I personally like the idea of OCs, but they do need to be somewhere other than it's specific anime section. Maybe a sub-category like everyone else suggests would be great.
It does get extremely annoying when OCs fill up an anime section like Naruto, Inuyasha, etc. >3<
anywho - i like this pic. The finger pointing is cute. xD
I say everyone has good points, but I think that putting them in original anime is odd, as they were made for a certain anime.
I know there are tons of oc's, but it is a fansite, what can you expect?
If your looking for a certain character, why not just use the search option? I think that's why they created tags after all.
I see your point cheeki, and I see everyone elses as well. Personally, I agree with the idea of adding a subcategory for oc's, but that could take a while.
Hope to see some agreement, without more fighting and capital usage, and maybe a settled idea over it all?
Some people won't be swayed, but at least no one else will retaliate rudely?
Thanks all.
-----Samm
Well as another long-time member (passing several years myself). I never feel well about putting characters I made up into the category of the show despite it being made for that world. Since I the characters I make are not part of the original author's work I don't put it in that catergory. Instead I use the tags to connect it to the series.
Like this picture is listed under crossovers but has all the shows listed in the tags.
That is my opinion on category placement.
On the actual topic of fan-made characters. Sure go for it. I encourage people to express themselves. And as long as you are drawing for yourself draw what you want. But please remember that this is a site for the world wide public and one man made it for all of us to share. So please be respectful to him and what he wants/feels is in the best interest of the site he is SHARING.
hmmm... i don't really know what to say but i think original characters made for a certain series(like fma,naruto and inuyasha) should be put in the series catagory they were originally made for. after all that is the point of making them up. i think it is great that you are voicing your opinion but please do not exspect everyone to agree with you and follow suit. this web site was made for us to post our art on that we drew for the fun of it. so i will continue putting my art in the catagory i made them for. you are a great artist but i will not follow suit just because you drew a pic asking for us to. however if i do come up with oc's that are nothing but original then for sure i will put them in original. i hope you continue on with your art and don't leave theotaku just because this place is full of ocs like some other artist have and are.
i cant say i disagree with any of you, you all have good points. and i dont have much to say because you all have expressed my thoughts without knowing them. ^__^ if that makes sence. omega zero and cherishock, not to be rude, but please move your conversation to PMing each other. it sounds more personal noy, and should be moved away from the comments. please dont get mad at me for saying that!! i actually agree with both of you!!
so here's what i really wanted to say:
everyone should just STOP debating this and do your own thing. weather you agree of disagree, it's up to you, but just go do your own thing and stop wasting your time by commenting on this. no one is MAKING YOU go either way on this, it's all up to you. make your choice and stick with it, that's what i'm doing. if we just do that and stop all the "flames" then TheOtaku can be that PEACEFUL COMMUNTY again!! because weather or not you admit it, that's how we all like it. nice and peaceful, the way it usually is.
thank you for your time!!
~winds soul
Ah... I must say I agree with Nikooru-chan, Sachi, ChibiCage, Cherri-chan, etcetera, here (though I won't resort to jamming my Caps Lock button to do so). Sticking characters that you've made for your own stories into the Original Anime section is all well and good, but a character you made up specifically for a certain series, one that would not be acceptable for any other series (say, a fan-made Tokyo Mew Mew or Sailor Moon character) seems to fit better into the section made for the series the character was made for, huh?
Funny...because we all won't give a darn about what you said either Cherryshock
but anyway I'm starting to act like I was in some sort of forumboard...I guess I'll go buy myself a life since somebody said so!
Very nice art, I totally agree. Except, It'd be cool if there was an actuall catagory for OC's. People go to the original section for originality, not knock offs of real characters. I really like this pick though!
I most respect you Spacecowboy...One of the major reason why I can't take O.C is mostly because they take all the votes of the site. I try to be an official artist and for that I try to get comments and votes. however, my work goes unnoticed for the profit of Naruto artworks and that drives me crazy.
I guess it could be very good if all of us could pay attention to all those other artists who are striving to become better and show their talents
WOW mew bubble half your brain cells must be dead...
yes, O.C. does mean original character, but it refers to a fan created character in an original anime series, like cheekies characters for example
and well cherryshock you need to get a life instead of insulting someone, i guess you have nothing better to do in your own time, if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it, simple as that.
*sigh* i cant beleive i got caught up in that rant! But i agree with you completely, naruto is for naruto, and as for anyone else. There have just been so many overloads of OCs recently >< it is indeed a problem that the OA cataogry is so jammed, and i think theO ought to fix the problem, it really is getting outta hand
Well I suppose I'll weigh in here. As someone who's been on this site for roughly three years now and as someone who primarily does fan work I have to say that I agree with Cheeki. But if I'm to be honest, the problem isn't with OC's and where they belong, its simply that most members on this site don't have access to the majority of Japanese animation, therefore resulting in a huge swing in popularity. Naruto, Full Metal Alchemist, Dragon Ball Z these shows are huge here in the United States or getting huge. I'm not saying they aren't in Japan but clearly there is a large swing in what people look at. I'm also not saying it�s anyone's fault; of course people are going to look at the art of the categories they know. I digress, so back to my point. I can submit three pieces of art. I'm confident that I could do all three of the same skill and quality and be pretty happy about it. However, of the three one would be of Naruto, one would be of Faye Valentine (Cowboy Bebop) and one would be of Tokiha Mai (Mai Hime). I'm sure all of you could guess which is going to get the most votes. It�s sad but it�s true. People have started attaching their OC's to these well know shows so that they get noticed. I whole heartedly agree that if they weren't put into these categories they wouldn't be noticed. So what do we do? Well if I could encourage you all to do one thing it would be this. Let�s support each other, take the extra 30 seconds to look through all the submitted catagories on the fan art page, and don�t just check out the top 8 and the Naruto section. This site is amazing for showing off our talent; let�s take the time to look at what we can do.
I�m open to everyone�s point of view, and if you don�t agree with me please pm me or send me a message, I like hearing all sides of the argument, but please people lets not �flame� each other. We all know Anime fans are the smartest people on Earth, there�s no need for us to fight. (Sorry this is so long)
I guess I've put it up the wrong way...
btw mewbubblegum, I suggest you watch your filthy mouth, we're not in a chat room here and there's many peoples you don't even know who are reading.
What I meant is that I hate the O.c Abuse, I create some O.c from time to time when I make fanfics about a story I already know but what I hate is people wasting their talent into making two thousand O.c on one single same story. with so much talent you could create your own story and have as much success as the one you have with your O.c
That being said, I agree with you, if it's an original character then perhaps it should pbe put in the original anime section.
Sold my soul (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 06/25/07 | Reply
AHEM.
WE DID NOT CREATE THE ANIME ,SO IT IS NOT OUR ORIGINAL ANIME. OUR FANCHARACTER IS PART OF THAT SECTION BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON IT. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A GOOD ARTIST DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE HAVE TO KNEEL DOWN AND OBEY YOU.
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM OFFENSING SOME OF US ARTISTS ANY MORE.
u-huh yeah.
I'm not gonna suck up to you ;]
I thank you for this. D: really. TwT And for those who are disagreeing. Shouldn't you then put them in the cross over? Your OC is not the actual artist's creation. Its yours. Or put it in the original. *glomps cheeki-chan* T^T
well i agree with Nikooru-chan if you put ocs from a show like naruto or inuyasha in the original category they won't get much notice i know cuz its hard to get characters noticed in original section anyway its a nice picture
I disagree with you. If they character is made for the series then it should go in the series the character is made for. The Original Anime category is already flooded. heck is we put all the Naruto o.c's(just because of narutos current over hyped popularness) into the OA it would only increase the apparent porblems on peoples work not getting votes.
So it's better to ease up the OA's daily intake of pics by putting original characters for the series they belong.
Hmm.. toughie. As some others have said before, it'd both agreeable and disagreeable. O.c.s are characters created specifically for that series. And another thing is, what if it's a picture of an o.c. with an anime character. Would that be put in the original category or not? I think that if it's o.c.s from a story that is made by yourself, then it could be put into the original category. ...but, that's what I think.^^" I love the pic, but I feel bad for Kiyoko, Carmen, and Nozomi. lol.^^
~Gonbatte Kudasai~
*votes*
--Sakurie
What people don't understand is that O.C are, I'm sorry, very unoriginal, this is only a new character based on an already existing anime. It's true, the character IS new, but it's not an original creation.
I'm putting it hard to understand so I'll just go with this. Instead of creating new characters in an already exisitng anime, why don't you create your OWN damn script with your OWN damn characters instead of leeching on someone else's work. If you have the inspiration and talent to put up O.C then you have more than enough inspiration and imagination for your own damn manga!
I agree 100% with you, I always despised this idea of O.c. Fanarts are okay I'm not against it, but O.C, it's just wrong.
And anyway, I've always seen O.C as fangirl work. Flame as you want O.C lovers, I don't care what you might think ,I'll always think you just can't put up your own stuff if you still keep on with your damn O.C
I agree and disagree.
Original characters for an anime are not in fact an orginal anime.
they are a sub-part of the category.
Original anime tends to be for people who make original animes.
not oc's.
however, i believe that flooding the categories with ocs is ridiculous.
but in fact if everyone on this site put their oc's in the original anime section,
all of the other sections wouldn't be getting any attention, and your oc would only be on the page for a few minutes because people would flood that category with the wrong material.
if it's for a naruto series.
it SHOULD go in the naruto category.
I think a better way to solve this problem would to be make a sub-category for everyone.
that way we have cannon and oc's.
however you look at it canons are oc's.
they are just more famous and already published oc's.
but they both share copyrights.
well.
-ahem-
anyway cute picture.
I agree and disagree
:O
yeah well thats a good idea..:P
dont people do that??
i m not a fan of making original characters from any anime (couse i never did that) but ohh i guess everything original papers needs to be in the original drawer.
^__^
lil huney i support you 100% cuz im gettin tired of o.cs in animes and others messin up original sotries.i have my own o.c.s but i keep them in my own lil story,i dont like havin them in stories of animes.
~adios~
I would say something but Nikooru-chan took the words out of my mouth. And it's the only reason I put next to nothing of my original stuff on this website.
Love the pic, not so fond of the idea.
The OA section is insanely popular. It goes through about five pages, daily. Unless you're completely amazing (which most aren't) you bearly get noticed. And since this site is about getting noticed for your artwork, shouldn't you put them where they have a better chance?
So yeah, I'll keep my FC's (fan characters) in the anime I put them in. No offence to anyone, but thats just how I see it.
Hmm... I agree that catagorys such as fma or iy are getting flooded. but then the original anime catagory would get flooded... so if the o.c. isnt standing next to/with one of the characters from its original show/comic then it would make better sense to put it in the original anime catagory.
but, saying it the other way around, if the o.c. WAS standing with the character and not just alone then it would make better sense to put it into, for example, fma or inyasaha.
i tried to put it into much sense as possible. rewording it would prolly be best. ^^
but anyway, the drawing is cute! =D
I have to say that I agreee and Disagree with you but mainly agree.....I think that ocs should be put in the original anime section but when they're alone or take up most of the pic....but if they're in chibi form at the corner of a page I think that they should be in whatever anime the main person in the drawing is.....make sense??....but other than that I think the drawing is very cute!! Keep it up!! ^-^
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