I know what you're saying but it's BETTER than an healthy animal... still saying both are sick and terrible.... i was just trying to explain both sides to this even though i think animal testing is one of the worst things in the world ((being the animal lover i am))
Hmn.... *thinks and adds that into her head* yeah.... that makes sense... you're right. I know the results will change.... didn't think about the tech. we already had though... Still no matter what, animal abuse pains me....
How does our testing on animals help people? Animals have completely different reactions to chemicals made for humans! And they have already made this sort of fake human sort of synthetic that could easily replace animals, and work much better then testing on animals ever did since these are based on average humans chemical make up so the result would be more accurate, not to mention nothing would get hurt.
And you don't know what animal cruelty is until you actually bother to search up the video files of hidden cameras in animal testing labs. Those scientists are heartless and treat the animals with deliberate cruelty. Some of the videos also include what you can see in their waste disposal. The remains of those animals show things done to them that shouldn't be inflicted to ANY living creature.
When you hear that puppy screaming in pain or the monkey gurgling as blood wells out of its throat because of the many tubes stuck through a hole they cut into it or you see a mouse with a friggin' human ear growing out of it's back from some experiment and then you look at the faces of the scientists and see the indifference or sometimes the excited or even annoyed look, it makes you cry.
And all that torture on those animals when the results of those tests aren't even going to be very accurate and their's a happier and healthier alternative available? This is just insanity.
Thing is, you didn't want to read that just now did you? You don't want to look at those graphic pictures or read those horrible accounts of animal testing, like everybody else out there doesn't. Heck, I don't want to. (Unless your some weirdo who should be in a hospital.) But then, if everybody tries to run away because it's scary or because it's gross or they get nightmares everynight about them, what about those animals? Cuz they can't run away can they? And for them, this isn't just a simple nightmare for them. It's real.
It's something that is real, it's useless and it's plain human. It is called inhumane but it's human. And only if we protest more, find out more, become more passionate and let people KNOW then we could stop it. And at least not have to act that animal testing is something completely normal and necessary. TT__TT Look at the puppies face, it deserves a chance to live as well as any other being, right?
Hell, I think I just won the "Longest Comment of the Year Award"... Go me~
HHHhmmmmmm... i have to agree that animal testing is sad, but its also nessesary. the main reason we find medical cures for sick and dying people is through animal testing. i dont know about you but in my opinion the life of a human being is by far more important then an animal.
;.; This picture does make me kinda cry...>.< Animal testing IS retarded, since animals and humans are TOTALLY different!! The results could be millions of years of a difference!!! And yes!! Use the stupid ppl to test on!!! lol just kidding... kinda..lol
@Fire Flower: It shouldn't even be done on animals that are sick/dying either. That is not a good way to go at all. Would you like to be tested on if you were dying? I wouldn't want to spend my final days being tested on... =(
Sorry, just had to say that. >.<; Anyways, nice card Iruka Sensei.
But again the point is, results are going to vary on a sick animal than a healthy one. As I said before, our technology is so far in advance we don't need to do it anymore...
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I hate animal abusers.... It's so sad!! I love animals.... i mean.. A LOT. Ever since i was little i've loved animals and cared about them a lot.... I guess ((even though i don't want to admit it)) DemonKingAtticus has a point.... but.... no matter what it's still not right. I mean, since we need to test on something, at least the animals that are sick or don't have as much a chance of living, you know? it's better than affecting a totally healthy dog. I still feel sorry for all these animals. I would love to help them.
Last edited by Fire Flower at 3:41:31 PM EDT on October 20, 2009.
Sadly to say, I have seen a lot worse than this. I used to get mail on helping animals by donations and the images they send are horrific. It's enough to make your stomach churn and twist around and vomit. I hate how animal testing is allowed to happen, but we can't let people be allowed to be tested. it would be the Holocaust all over again. Did you know that Jews were tested on because the germans saw them similar as animals? The Nazis actually liked animals more than the jews. One of them got punished because he didn't use enough anesthesia on a worm, but they were allowed to do surgery on people with no anesthesia or anything. Anyways I went a little off there, but I just hate it all.
I know what you mean. I just said that it's not that simple to use people for tests just because they're volunteers. Just the same it's not that simple to put animals to be tested on just because they're not humans.
But we don't want to start a war over this discussion, right? Nor do I think you would like it to take place in your card's comments. So, I'm sorry for the long reply. ^^' If you'd like to discuss it further, feel free to PM me.
I agree with you, it's not an easy subject to be discussed.
And Iruka, even though I agree that abuses occur and have to be stopped, I don't think it's that simple to say that some people are stupid and then we should test on them. If someone is so "stupid", aren't them as defenseless as those poor animals?
Either way, GREAT CARD! And a great entrance for the contest too! Good luck, I think it deserves more than a gold medal!
Our technology is so far advanced there is no need to test on animals anymore. There is a difference between something that happens to a human than an animal. Results will vary.
Heck as stupid as it sounds, there area many people who would be stupid enough to be tested on, use them....
A Fiery Spirit (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
It always open a plethora of questions.
To play the devil's advocate, let's say animal testing was decided to be done away with. What would replace animals in testing?
artypants1017
Otaku Eternal | Posted 12/17/09 | Reply
AWW POOR THING! I AM crying. People are A** holes
winterlionheart
Grand Otaku | Posted 11/09/09 | Reply
it's so true!! animals are abused and hurt way to much!!! >< i hate people!!
Can I be someone else for all the times I hate myself?
JessSlaCrevette
Senior Otaku+ | Posted 10/29/09 | Reply
I wanna cry.. Its so horrible.. how people can do so unhumain thing on those poor thing...
Fire Flower
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/21/09 | Reply
@kagome2690:
I know what you're saying but it's BETTER than an healthy animal... still saying both are sick and terrible.... i was just trying to explain both sides to this even though i think animal testing is one of the worst things in the world ((being the animal lover i am))
Fire Flower
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/21/09 | Reply
@Team Plasma N:
Hmn.... *thinks and adds that into her head* yeah.... that makes sense... you're right. I know the results will change.... didn't think about the tech. we already had though... Still no matter what, animal abuse pains me....
Nikokami
Otakuite++ | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
you go Iruka Sensei! ^^ with u all the way in this one~
Nikokami
Otakuite++ | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
How does our testing on animals help people? Animals have completely different reactions to chemicals made for humans! And they have already made this sort of fake human sort of synthetic that could easily replace animals, and work much better then testing on animals ever did since these are based on average humans chemical make up so the result would be more accurate, not to mention nothing would get hurt.
And you don't know what animal cruelty is until you actually bother to search up the video files of hidden cameras in animal testing labs. Those scientists are heartless and treat the animals with deliberate cruelty. Some of the videos also include what you can see in their waste disposal. The remains of those animals show things done to them that shouldn't be inflicted to ANY living creature.
When you hear that puppy screaming in pain or the monkey gurgling as blood wells out of its throat because of the many tubes stuck through a hole they cut into it or you see a mouse with a friggin' human ear growing out of it's back from some experiment and then you look at the faces of the scientists and see the indifference or sometimes the excited or even annoyed look, it makes you cry.
And all that torture on those animals when the results of those tests aren't even going to be very accurate and their's a happier and healthier alternative available? This is just insanity.
Thing is, you didn't want to read that just now did you? You don't want to look at those graphic pictures or read those horrible accounts of animal testing, like everybody else out there doesn't. Heck, I don't want to. (Unless your some weirdo who should be in a hospital.) But then, if everybody tries to run away because it's scary or because it's gross or they get nightmares everynight about them, what about those animals? Cuz they can't run away can they? And for them, this isn't just a simple nightmare for them. It's real.
It's something that is real, it's useless and it's plain human. It is called inhumane but it's human. And only if we protest more, find out more, become more passionate and let people KNOW then we could stop it. And at least not have to act that animal testing is something completely normal and necessary. TT__TT Look at the puppies face, it deserves a chance to live as well as any other being, right?
Hell, I think I just won the "Longest Comment of the Year Award"... Go me~
Lol >w<
Glow Worm
Otakuite | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
HHHhmmmmmm... i have to agree that animal testing is sad, but its also nessesary. the main reason we find medical cures for sick and dying people is through animal testing. i dont know about you but in my opinion the life of a human being is by far more important then an animal.
yuri nanami
Otakuite+ | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
;.; This picture does make me kinda cry...>.< Animal testing IS retarded, since animals and humans are TOTALLY different!! The results could be millions of years of a difference!!! And yes!! Use the stupid ppl to test on!!! lol just kidding... kinda..lol
kagome2690
Senior Otaku | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
I just noticed that the dog in the picture looks like my dog Gizmo. o.o She is a cutie.
Okay, I'm going to go now. Sorry! xD;
kagome2690
Senior Otaku | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@Fire Flower: It shouldn't even be done on animals that are sick/dying either. That is not a good way to go at all. Would you like to be tested on if you were dying? I wouldn't want to spend my final days being tested on... =(
Sorry, just had to say that. >.<; Anyways, nice card Iruka Sensei.
Team Plasma N
Sinbad of Sindria (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@Fire Flower:
But again the point is, results are going to vary on a sick animal than a healthy one. As I said before, our technology is so far in advance we don't need to do it anymore...
Last edited by Iruka Sensei at 5:04:39 PM EDT on October 20, 2009.
Fire Flower
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
I hate animal abusers.... It's so sad!! I love animals.... i mean.. A LOT. Ever since i was little i've loved animals and cared about them a lot.... I guess ((even though i don't want to admit it)) DemonKingAtticus has a point.... but.... no matter what it's still not right. I mean, since we need to test on something, at least the animals that are sick or don't have as much a chance of living, you know? it's better than affecting a totally healthy dog. I still feel sorry for all these animals. I would love to help them.
Last edited by Fire Flower at 3:41:31 PM EDT on October 20, 2009.
DemonKingAtticus
A Fiery Spirit (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@:
It's easiest to manipulate those that have no voice, be it our own species or another one.
Teapot Domescam
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
Sadly to say, I have seen a lot worse than this. I used to get mail on helping animals by donations and the images they send are horrific. It's enough to make your stomach churn and twist around and vomit. I hate how animal testing is allowed to happen, but we can't let people be allowed to be tested. it would be the Holocaust all over again. Did you know that Jews were tested on because the germans saw them similar as animals? The Nazis actually liked animals more than the jews. One of them got punished because he didn't use enough anesthesia on a worm, but they were allowed to do surgery on people with no anesthesia or anything. Anyways I went a little off there, but I just hate it all.
XOXO
Sole Storyteller
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@Team Plasma N:
I know what you mean. I just said that it's not that simple to use people for tests just because they're volunteers. Just the same it's not that simple to put animals to be tested on just because they're not humans.
But we don't want to start a war over this discussion, right? Nor do I think you would like it to take place in your card's comments. So, I'm sorry for the long reply. ^^' If you'd like to discuss it further, feel free to PM me.
Team Plasma N
Sinbad of Sindria (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@Sole Storyteller:
When I say stupid people, they would actually volunteer to be tested on. There are people out there that would like to be experimented on.
Sole Storyteller
Otaku Legend | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@DemonKingAtticus:
I agree with you, it's not an easy subject to be discussed.
And Iruka, even though I agree that abuses occur and have to be stopped, I don't think it's that simple to say that some people are stupid and then we should test on them. If someone is so "stupid", aren't them as defenseless as those poor animals?
Either way, GREAT CARD! And a great entrance for the contest too! Good luck, I think it deserves more than a gold medal!
Team Plasma N
Sinbad of Sindria (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
@DemonKingAtticus:
Our technology is so far advanced there is no need to test on animals anymore. There is a difference between something that happens to a human than an animal. Results will vary.
Heck as stupid as it sounds, there area many people who would be stupid enough to be tested on, use them....
DemonKingAtticus
A Fiery Spirit (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/20/09 | Reply
It always open a plethora of questions.
To play the devil's advocate, let's say animal testing was decided to be done away with. What would replace animals in testing?