Vagrant AI (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 09/10/08 | Reply
I remember when the manga bookshelf at Waldenbooks (pre-Borders) was teeny tiny, yet I was grateful for that. Now, the Borders shelves extend into four or five gigantic storage units. Tis amazing.
Kids these days need to watch/play the first Pokemon season/games. The originals. The BEST.
*laughs at how you're younger than me, even though I thought you were older*
I'd say 'Amen!' to it all, however the fact is that I'm one of those 'newer' parts of the audience. >.> I started off with good ol' Tokyo Mew Mew and Saint Seiya, so I can't say I started off with completely 'new' series. And I'm glad. Because some of the newer fans think they know everything which kind of makes me inwardly twitch as I stand in the manga isle. Mentioning the fact that there even is a manga isle now could get me shot. I'm so lucky to have a whole isle(s)!
'Back in my day, there were only 151 Pokemon and we liked it.' D@mn straight. I was in the manga isle and at the end of the isle are some game guides and two boys where sitting there talking about which Pokemon were the best. Didn't know a one they were talking about. *cries* And watching my brothers play the new Diamond and Pearl (often includes phrases like "What the hell is that?!" and "Oh Lord, is that some freaked up mix of two other Pokemon?")... It pains me to do so...
A 24-hour anime channel... Oh, how I wish those existed in my area.
Spread the word, Katana's got exactly what all the youngins need to hear!
Yeah, I remember when there was only 151 pokemon. It bugs me to watch the Burger king commercial.
"Well we use pokemon like pikachu."
"And Chimchong to battle each other."
It makes me cringe.
My first con was age 15.
Yeah, this took me back watching all the older animes on Toonami. I would race home to watch Kenshin.
I look at the anime industry and it is just loosing money because of the internet, I take pride that I buy all my manga(besides for naruto)!
*remembers the good ol days*
You know that someone truly cares when they brick you like that. -AZ
Woo! You did some justice for us oldies! Well, I'm Canadian and it hasn't quite reached that level of annoying noobs. The most annoying stuff I hear from the noobs is "OMG!!! Naruto and Bleach are the best animes ever!" When they haven't even heard of anime greats, such as Wolf's Rain and Cowboy Bebop.
However, I have heard noobs on the internet complaining about speed of release and such too. Claymore gets a new manga released about every 1-3 months, and I think that's amazing! I mean, normal books often take years to get sequels! XD Hehe, I like the "I remember when there were only 151 Pokemon and COLORS!" That's so true! ^.^ Thanks for helping us oldies get back at the whiners. ^.~
This article deserves a standing ovation, and I'm here to deliver it.
Preach that good word! Remember your roots, bruthas and sistas! Look back to your heritage and proudly declare! Tell the world that you loved that repetitive Digimon opening song! Tell them how Fox Kids made your spirit sing! Hallelujah!
Anyway, yes. I completely approve, not that you need the approval of little ol' me.
Queen of Termina (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/19/08 | Reply
I really loved the article. Ahh,the good old days.
I remember being about six years old, watching Pokemon with my little friend in the 90s... (Why'd those happy times go away?)...But when I first started really getting into anime, it was because of Miyazaki films. I didn't even know what Naruto was until much, much later.
I cry at this stuff too. The little shop I used to go to for my geek kick has closed down and now own a Borders Rewards card simply because of my manga binges. All the new kids to fandom, the Narutards and the Death Note Writers, they don't have the level appreciation we seem to have. My first manga was Inuyasha, which was totally flipped. I haven't picked up a new one in years, so I'm not sure if they kept the format. I also have Slayers manga that was flipped and published in a comic book format, just to blend in with the rest of the comic books in the stores. It was a cruel world, but we weren't the first anime-loving generation. At least we haven't been subjected to trading fan-subs at cons. Plus, my first con is later this year; I'm nineteen. It's a cruel, cruel world.
I'm trying to hook the eight-year-old brother on anime/manga right off the bat, which it seems to be working. He gravitates towards it now, and requests to read my Yotsuba&! volumes. It makes me sad though, that I went through so much to make it so that my parents accepted the stuff inside the house, yet he just picks it up off the shelf without thinking. I think that the good side of it is the lack of culture gap. Japan used to be confusing to everyone; now a very young group of people is emerging with the (slight) understanding of a society once dubbed imperturbable and impossible to decode. We've paved the way, now the younger ones have to be the ones to follow our lead.
...and I blame the sheer amount of Pokemon on Nintendo's hunger for our money. I'm glad I know what a Chimchar and a Mudkip is, but I'm pretty lost on most of the rest. Plus I now know that Eevee has a third evolution. I think that thing is like the fall-back Pokemon when they can't think of anything else to evolve. It's almost like a paring horse or something. B@stards.
I so totally agree with this. Like, I remember when Card Captor Sakura was airing, and when Pokemon was COOL. And I had no idea they were dubs, or even that they were anime, but did I care?
And just today, this kid pulls out his GameBoy SP and goes, "Time to train my Bolteon!" The following conversation ensued:
"You mean Jolteon. Evee's electric evolved form, right?"
"No, Bolteon!"
"WTF is Bolteon?!"
"The third evolution!"
"Since when did Evee have a third evolution!?!?!"
I'm dead serious. I got into anime when I was around 11--my first manga was 'InuYasha, Volume Four'. I was in the middle of the time you're talking about and the time we live in now. I remember DBZ, Sailor Moon, Hamtaro, all of that, but my memories of those days are not so prominent then the days of InuYasha and Naruto.
Oh, I certainly remember those days! As a youngster, I only had Pokemon and Digimon and CardCaptors to keep me occupied! And I didn't know a thing about manga until I was almost in high school! At 20 now, it certainly is astounding what kids now are exposed to in the world of anime today. I didn't go to a con until 2004... I didn't know about cons until 2004! And cosplay and all that good stuff.
Youngsters now just don't realize how lucky they are! To be able to waltz into Borders and pick up any manga they want! Or turn on the TV anytime Saturday to catch an anime show... In some ways, I fear for the fandom having such a young generation immersed in the anime ways... We get enough of "OMG, that's soo kawaii!" as it is... -_-' But times change... change is supposed to be good, right?
I remember watching anime when I didn't even know what anime was. I just knew there was an awesome show on tv with a transforming schoolgirl, her talking cat, and her super-hot boyfriend that I totally drooled over fighting monsters. Then, while staying up late one night, watching Cartoon Network, my brother and I caught the very beginning of Dragonball Z, and it carried on from there. I also caught some more mature titles in my grade school days, like Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, and Wicked City (I will always remember the spider lady...) Then, of course, came the seemingly requisite Pokemon fandom (I miss my talking Pikachu doll and my Pokedex), and Adult Swim (which I secretly watched at the time. Thought my mom might not like me watching Cowboy Bebop at my age). Now, I'm finally attending conventions (started last January), cosplaying, and buying original-format manga in bookstores. And it's all friggin' fantastic.
Sure, there are plenty of annoying fans in the newer generation (I won't necessarily say younger because there are some more mature young fans out there), arguing over sub vs. dub or how fast stuff is released. Heck, I'm still happy that we get anime at all!
I do feel a little old sometimes. But, at the same time, I feel like this was a decent fandom generation to be born in. We've come far, and yet we still have far to go.
So many Pokemon, I used to be so happy I could identify all 151. I was overjoyed when a movie came out. An episode of Dragonball Z had a swear word in it! I'd watch the same episodes of Digimon over and over as that was all we had in the UK.
And Akira, opening my eyes to a new and bizzare world, such joy's hunting it down in a specialist comic book store.
Well, anime fans are coming in at a younger age...though it's more of a ambiguous meaning. Though honestly, the people who are both new and young tend to be the worst offenders...But it doesn't mean they go hand in hand. ;D
Hahahaha....i feel so young now XD (if that's good or i bad i don't know).
Even tho Sweden is pretty new to Manga and anime, which makes me feel older than most swedish fans out there. (i had a vhs of Lady georgie which i watched over and over and over and over as a 5 year old...didn't know it was anime tho).
And when Sailor moon was showed on Swedish tv i didn't miss a single one....(7 years old...something)
And then when pokemon started airing i ended up having 10+ vhs tapes with pokemon.
And then in my younger teenage years i got my very first dragonball manga, the first manga ever to be sold in the "normal" bookstores.
I even watched card captor sakura (i think it was the first ever anime shown on Swedish tv that was NOT dubbed)
But they still put the anime dvds in the childrens section here *sigh*
Ahh the good old days... Some of that stuff I truly miss but, stuff like toonami and old good original animes like outlaw star have been hard to find for my kindof taste. I remember I would have to go to chinatown to but anime. Anime has spread so far and have started to be a common thing throughout society. Man, I really wish the younger generation really had that experience of enjoying anime and not go " waah, that anime was @#$%@." Those type of words should never be spoken about an anime no matter how bad it could be but still. It's just isn't right.
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
I remember when the only anime worth watching was when SciFi Channel played movies like Vampire Hunter D and Galaxy Express 999 late nights on weekend. That was my first real exposure to anime; it was the early 90s, and I was 12-13 years old.
I remember when the only reference to anime on TV at all was those 1-800 cumber ads where you coudl order the anime movie collections, with things like Akira. For years, my idea of anime was that it was all weird violent stuff like Akira.
Amen, sista! Seriously. My sister and I were reminiscing the other day about how we used to be able to name all the Pokemon! And now look what's become of it!! I remember when Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z used to come on the Toonami block after school!! And now, the younger you are and the more into anime you are the sadder it is for the 'older fans'.
Muu, I can hardly relate on any of this. I got hit with the anime at a late date...like what 8th grade? And I'm pretty sure it was because of you...
Though fangirls do upset me and I think its childish...and I do remember preNaruto craze. Cause I know I got passed the manga, didn't like it and didn't hear about it for like, another two years.
infinatelove42
Queen of Mustaches (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 03/26/10 | Reply
aww... its okay my first con was last may when i was 16 i really enjoyed reading this it brings back a lot of memories
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 09/10/08 | Reply
@Miss Anonymous:
I still have the ability to make people think I'm older than I am. Shwing!
"In Kat's wor we trust."
Miss Anonymous
Vagrant AI (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 09/10/08 | Reply
I remember when the manga bookshelf at Waldenbooks (pre-Borders) was teeny tiny, yet I was grateful for that. Now, the Borders shelves extend into four or five gigantic storage units. Tis amazing.
Kids these days need to watch/play the first Pokemon season/games. The originals. The BEST.
*laughs at how you're younger than me, even though I thought you were older*
tamie
Senior Otaku | Posted 09/09/08 | Reply
i found out about magna because some one brought his card collection to school every day
mewmewpudding
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/21/08 | Reply
I'd say 'Amen!' to it all, however the fact is that I'm one of those 'newer' parts of the audience. >.> I started off with good ol' Tokyo Mew Mew and Saint Seiya, so I can't say I started off with completely 'new' series. And I'm glad. Because some of the newer fans think they know everything which kind of makes me inwardly twitch as I stand in the manga isle.
Mentioning the fact that there even is a manga isle now could get me shot. I'm so lucky to have a whole isle(s)!'Back in my day, there were only 151 Pokemon and we liked it.' D@mn straight. I was in the manga isle and at the end of the isle are some game guides and two boys where sitting there talking about which Pokemon were the best. Didn't know a one they were talking about. *cries* And watching my brothers play the new Diamond and Pearl (often includes phrases like "What the hell is that?!" and "Oh Lord, is that some freaked up mix of two other Pokemon?")... It pains me to do so...
A 24-hour anime channel... Oh, how I wish those existed in my area.
Spread the word, Katana's got exactly what all the youngins need to hear!
Hiko
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/20/08 | Reply
Yeah, I remember when there was only 151 pokemon. It bugs me to watch the Burger king commercial.
"Well we use pokemon like pikachu."
"And Chimchong to battle each other."
It makes me cringe.
My first con was age 15.
Yeah, this took me back watching all the older animes on Toonami. I would race home to watch Kenshin.
I look at the anime industry and it is just loosing money because of the internet, I take pride that I buy all my manga(besides for naruto)!
*remembers the good ol days*
You know that someone truly cares when they brick you like that. -AZ
sbsp13668
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/20/08 | Reply
Woo! You did some justice for us oldies! Well, I'm Canadian and it hasn't quite reached that level of annoying noobs. The most annoying stuff I hear from the noobs is "OMG!!! Naruto and Bleach are the best animes ever!" When they haven't even heard of anime greats, such as Wolf's Rain and Cowboy Bebop.
However, I have heard noobs on the internet complaining about speed of release and such too. Claymore gets a new manga released about every 1-3 months, and I think that's amazing! I mean, normal books often take years to get sequels! XD Hehe, I like the "I remember when there were only 151 Pokemon and COLORS!" That's so true! ^.^ Thanks for helping us oldies get back at the whiners. ^.~
Ace
Senile Hipster (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/20/08 | Reply
This article deserves a standing ovation, and I'm here to deliver it.
Preach that good word! Remember your roots, bruthas and sistas! Look back to your heritage and proudly declare! Tell the world that you loved that repetitive Digimon opening song! Tell them how Fox Kids made your spirit sing! Hallelujah!
Anyway, yes. I completely approve, not that you need the approval of little ol' me.
MewMew
Master of Kittehs (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/19/08 | Reply
wow great article! yea i remember the only 150 pokemon X3
Kachikamac
Queen of Termina (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/19/08 | Reply
I really loved the article. Ahh,the good old days.
I remember being about six years old, watching Pokemon with my little friend in the 90s... (Why'd those happy times go away?)...But when I first started really getting into anime, it was because of Miyazaki films. I didn't even know what Naruto was until much, much later.
Nehszriah
Hits Self With Axe (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/19/08 | Reply
I cry at this stuff too. The little shop I used to go to for my geek kick has closed down and now own a Borders Rewards card simply because of my manga binges. All the new kids to fandom, the Narutards and the Death Note Writers, they don't have the level appreciation we seem to have. My first manga was Inuyasha, which was totally flipped. I haven't picked up a new one in years, so I'm not sure if they kept the format. I also have Slayers manga that was flipped and published in a comic book format, just to blend in with the rest of the comic books in the stores. It was a cruel world, but we weren't the first anime-loving generation. At least we haven't been subjected to trading fan-subs at cons. Plus, my first con is later this year; I'm nineteen. It's a cruel, cruel world.
I'm trying to hook the eight-year-old brother on anime/manga right off the bat, which it seems to be working. He gravitates towards it now, and requests to read my Yotsuba&! volumes. It makes me sad though, that I went through so much to make it so that my parents accepted the stuff inside the house, yet he just picks it up off the shelf without thinking. I think that the good side of it is the lack of culture gap. Japan used to be confusing to everyone; now a very young group of people is emerging with the (slight) understanding of a society once dubbed imperturbable and impossible to decode. We've paved the way, now the younger ones have to be the ones to follow our lead.
...and I blame the sheer amount of Pokemon on Nintendo's hunger for our money. I'm glad I know what a Chimchar and a Mudkip is, but I'm pretty lost on most of the rest. Plus I now know that Eevee has a third evolution. I think that thing is like the fall-back Pokemon when they can't think of anything else to evolve. It's almost like a paring horse or something. B@stards.
Be true, be you and of course, be otaku.
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
@Baka No Hanyou:
You could and, in fact, I did. XDDD So I had to catch Mewtwo with an Ultra Ball. 8D;
"In Kat's wor we trust."
Baka No Hanyou
Otakuite+ | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
If there was a way, you would also use the Master Ball on Articuno, Moltres, and Zapdos
KCHuang
Senior Otaku+ | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
I so totally agree with this. Like, I remember when Card Captor Sakura was airing, and when Pokemon was COOL. And I had no idea they were dubs, or even that they were anime, but did I care?
And just today, this kid pulls out his GameBoy SP and goes, "Time to train my Bolteon!" The following conversation ensued:
I feel old.
KoInu kyan
Grand Otaku | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
THIS IS A GREAT ARTICLE!!!
I'm dead serious. I got into anime when I was around 11--my first manga was 'InuYasha, Volume Four'. I was in the middle of the time you're talking about and the time we live in now. I remember DBZ, Sailor Moon, Hamtaro, all of that, but my memories of those days are not so prominent then the days of InuYasha and Naruto.
(Hehe...big words are fun. :D)
Kudos to you, my friend.
Rishi~
firewolf
Otaku Legend | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
Oh, I certainly remember those days! As a youngster, I only had Pokemon and Digimon and CardCaptors to keep me occupied! And I didn't know a thing about manga until I was almost in high school! At 20 now, it certainly is astounding what kids now are exposed to in the world of anime today. I didn't go to a con until 2004... I didn't know about cons until 2004! And cosplay and all that good stuff.
Youngsters now just don't realize how lucky they are! To be able to waltz into Borders and pick up any manga they want! Or turn on the TV anytime Saturday to catch an anime show... In some ways, I fear for the fandom having such a young generation immersed in the anime ways... We get enough of "OMG, that's soo kawaii!" as it is... -_-' But times change... change is supposed to be good, right?
KaiManga12
Otakuite | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
I remember watching anime when I didn't even know what anime was. I just knew there was an awesome show on tv with a transforming schoolgirl, her talking cat, and her super-hot boyfriend that I totally drooled over fighting monsters. Then, while staying up late one night, watching Cartoon Network, my brother and I caught the very beginning of Dragonball Z, and it carried on from there. I also caught some more mature titles in my grade school days, like Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, and Wicked City (I will always remember the spider lady...) Then, of course, came the seemingly requisite Pokemon fandom (I miss my talking Pikachu doll and my Pokedex), and Adult Swim (which I secretly watched at the time. Thought my mom might not like me watching Cowboy Bebop at my age). Now, I'm finally attending conventions (started last January), cosplaying, and buying original-format manga in bookstores. And it's all friggin' fantastic.
Sure, there are plenty of annoying fans in the newer generation (I won't necessarily say younger because there are some more mature young fans out there), arguing over sub vs. dub or how fast stuff is released. Heck, I'm still happy that we get anime at all!
I do feel a little old sometimes. But, at the same time, I feel like this was a decent fandom generation to be born in. We've come far, and yet we still have far to go.
Calaya
Team | Posted 07/18/08 | Reply
So many Pokemon, I used to be so happy I could identify all 151. I was overjoyed when a movie came out. An episode of Dragonball Z had a swear word in it! I'd watch the same episodes of Digimon over and over as that was all we had in the UK.
And Akira, opening my eyes to a new and bizzare world, such joy's hunting it down in a specialist comic book store.
Katana
Goggalor (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
@:
Well, anime fans are coming in at a younger age...though it's more of a ambiguous meaning. Though honestly, the people who are both new and young tend to be the worst offenders...But it doesn't mean they go hand in hand. ;D
"In Kat's wor we trust."
Dainina
Otakuite | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
Hahahaha....i feel so young now XD (if that's good or i bad i don't know).
Even tho Sweden is pretty new to Manga and anime, which makes me feel older than most swedish fans out there. (i had a vhs of Lady georgie which i watched over and over and over and over as a 5 year old...didn't know it was anime tho).
And when Sailor moon was showed on Swedish tv i didn't miss a single one....(7 years old...something)
And then when pokemon started airing i ended up having 10+ vhs tapes with pokemon.
And then in my younger teenage years i got my very first dragonball manga, the first manga ever to be sold in the "normal" bookstores.
I even watched card captor sakura (i think it was the first ever anime shown on Swedish tv that was NOT dubbed)
But they still put the anime dvds in the childrens section here *sigh*
So in some ways i understand you.
Even tho i am 16.
Takeru969
Otakuite | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
Ahh the good old days... Some of that stuff I truly miss but, stuff like toonami and old good original animes like outlaw star have been hard to find for my kindof taste. I remember I would have to go to chinatown to but anime. Anime has spread so far and have started to be a common thing throughout society. Man, I really wish the younger generation really had that experience of enjoying anime and not go " waah, that anime was @#$%@." Those type of words should never be spoken about an anime no matter how bad it could be but still. It's just isn't right.
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
I remember when the only anime worth watching was when SciFi Channel played movies like Vampire Hunter D and Galaxy Express 999 late nights on weekend. That was my first real exposure to anime; it was the early 90s, and I was 12-13 years old.
I remember when the only reference to anime on TV at all was those 1-800 cumber ads where you coudl order the anime movie collections, with things like Akira. For years, my idea of anime was that it was all weird violent stuff like Akira.
Bazinga!
ink.black.sky
Otaku Legend | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
Amen, sista! Seriously. My sister and I were reminiscing the other day about how we used to be able to name all the Pokemon! And now look what's become of it!! I remember when Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z used to come on the Toonami block after school!! And now, the younger you are and the more into anime you are the sadder it is for the 'older fans'.
gaaragirl911
Otaku Eternal | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
I love it. Just like my life, except a little tweaked...
Surprise me ;]
Waffuru
Otaku Ranter (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
Muu, I can hardly relate on any of this. I got hit with the anime at a late date...like what 8th grade? And I'm pretty sure it was because of you...
Though fangirls do upset me and I think its childish...and I do remember preNaruto craze. Cause I know I got passed the manga, didn't like it and didn't hear about it for like, another two years.
Fasteriskhead
Otakuite++ | Posted 07/17/08 | Reply
...Dear God, I feel old.