Seriously though,what's more aggravating is the fact that some continue to opine that the decision was unfair(with insensible claims n incomplete information on the matter at hand) while it's been stated that it was done since "other people felt harassed".Heaping abuses n treating the staff this way can only be called immature behavior.
Oh I'm well aware of the continued drama and Korey being mistaken for a girl. I'm also well aware of the bit about Adam supposedly giving them permission to return. What they forget is that permission to return does not = permission to continue trolling.
The only way their return factors into this mess is that I am less lenient with someone who has been busted before. If they had simply come clean when it was clear that their little 'joke' was genuinely upsetting people, I would have issued nothing more than a warning.
Oh well. I can only hope the lesson is learned this time around, but I'm not holding my breath.
Though I found some fun reads for those who didn't care looking.Posts,actually... this which makes me sigh n this which brings forth a smirk on my face!(I'd recommend going through the comments :p)
Hope there are no more comments made in a Valium-induced state of mind though >.>
What a 'great' way to start off the year![/sarcasm]
aeh.. im sorry.. i meant chat mods that are available whenever this happens.. XD of course we cant expect that everyone does their job every time.. ur not getting paid anyway.. are u..? lol... and besides, we have different opinions... ugh opinions.... but this is why the rules exist..
We do. We're just not omnipotent. We can't always be in chat, and there are times of the day when simply none of us can make it in.
Besides, I consider myself a member first and a mod second. I'm not there just to boot people who are causing a ruckus, I'm there to discuss my interests and have some fun. Quite frankly, even having to deal with someone puts a real damper on the next couple of hours of my day. That's not to say that I won't pull the plug on someone if I'm required to, though. It would be ideal if my services weren't required, but I like to believe that I perform them to the best of my ability.
As for you, Beth, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You clearly do this to the best of your ability as well, and you have much greater ability for this kind of thing than I do. Kudos.
Last edited by Ace at 2:00:08 AM EST on January 19, 2010.
so she was warned before with her previous account.. >x<" chat moderators should prevent this from happening.. kick them out of the chatroom if their topic is inappropriate.. letting them stay and continue the conversation will only offend the people who's coming in without knowing what's going on there so yeh.... *final sales cannot be returned* it's sad to see a great artist leave this community because of this.. =/
u have a really tough job.... o.o"
Last edited by reirei18 at 1:31:11 AM EST on January 19, 2010.
Well Crystia mentioned that this had turned into a spectacle of people having a cow over a member being held accountable for disruptive behavior, but damn girl, I wasn't expecting this much stupidity.
Whatever happened to the golden rule of treating others how you'd like to be treated? Seems like now a days it's the "I didn't do anything rule" when you're caught behaving like an immature and petty child.
It's a pity that members are attacking you instead of appreciating all the hard work and utter nonsense that you put up with as a moderator.
Also, how someone could say they were a guy who was raped, when they are a girl, and then turn around and force attention on someone who didn't want it and claim they were only 'catting' around... think that was acceptable? That is just beyond me.
It's not funny it's not acceptable, it's just sad, pathetic and extremely immature. Especially when instead of apologizing for it, they went on to further insult them implying they had to be on their time of the month or something.
I've been sitting in my chair for the past twenty minutes trying to put some proper sense together from all of this...and I...it's just...feh.
First off, I just can't believe all the bad choices people are making. All of this stemmed from just one member. There's only so much havoc you can cause as a member on a social/interest site; how determined do you have to be to take it all the way? Not to mention such confrontation like the ones caused are so easy to avoid. Block user, ignore member, creating a different room/private chat, or just take it to another freakin' communication site/program; there's only a thousand of them out there. OR JUST MAYBE, click the inviting little X in the top right corner of your screen. It'd be one thing if they were talking about something intelligent, but 'Giving another member a hug?' Or talking about rape? I never knew rape was such a popular converstation topic. Last I checked, this site is about ANIME, and I really don't see a proper hentai section anywhere.
I've been in plenty (as well as the source of) a heated chat, but this....kinda makes me wonder how their real live conversations go.
-Ryu
One other thing, for those of you who got upset over not being allowed to turn chat into a dramariffic affair in regards to this paticular issue. Before you start yelling censorship and freedom of speech, I'd like you to read this little post here:
Absentminded One (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
Why can't we get a decent banned person for once? One who doesn't come back and try to bite the bums of the mods, but somehow only manage to nip at their ankles? *::*sigh*::* What a utopia that would be.
The thing is, those rules DO apply to them. However, action can only be taken by someone higher than the mods.
So, if you have a complaint, take it to the higher ups.
I can't say anything will be done about it, but complaining is definitely NOT the option you want to take.
Choose your words carefully. Play fair. Things will happen as long as actions are taken.
I know Nehs, seriously I know. *sigh* I was right there and saw the entire spectacle. Including the bit where the others were laughing over how much they got to otakuhostclub when they left. They were all, 'man that was so funny!'. So it was deliberate. The moment I moved out of stealth mode, someone instantly said, uh oh.
So yeah, the more they get upset and lie, the more I just facepalm over it since the ban is based on firsthand account and my having banned them for the same thing before and them even admitting they shouldn't do that kind of thing anymore.
But, let it be known, popularity saves NO ONE from the rules... :/
Exactly. No matter how popular you are, if you break the rules, you will be held accountable for it. Also, there are people who are popular and did have the maturity to own up to their mistakes and move on, like this member here:
I understand and respect your decision, Sun-san. I think the only reason there's so much hype, however, is because AvariceTears was such a popular member.
But, let it be known, popularity saves NO ONE from the rules... :/
Last edited by TheDarkAngel at 10:29:51 PM EST on January 18, 2010.
Hiko
Otaku Eternal | Posted 02/10/10 | Reply
I think adam has emailed me before!
...no, nevermind that was a pm lmao
oh btw yay for late comments!
You know that someone truly cares when they brick you like that. -AZ
VWBSZWAS
Otaku Legend | Posted 01/24/10 | Reply
I think you've made the right desision 100%, your doing an exalent job!
SRV
Guru's Chosen | Posted 01/21/10 | Reply
@SunfallE:
Seriously though,what's more aggravating is the fact that some continue to opine that the decision was unfair(with insensible claims n incomplete information on the matter at hand) while it's been stated that it was done since "other people felt harassed".Heaping abuses n treating the staff this way can only be called immature behavior.
I declare,I was a better kid ;) *bricked*
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/21/10 | Reply
@SRV:
Oh I'm well aware of the continued drama and Korey being mistaken for a girl. I'm also well aware of the bit about Adam supposedly giving them permission to return. What they forget is that permission to return does not = permission to continue trolling.
The only way their return factors into this mess is that I am less lenient with someone who has been busted before. If they had simply come clean when it was clear that their little 'joke' was genuinely upsetting people, I would have issued nothing more than a warning.
Oh well. I can only hope the lesson is learned this time around, but I'm not holding my breath.
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
SRV
Guru's Chosen | Posted 01/21/10 | Reply
Hmm...at least the drama's over
Though I found some fun reads for those who didn't care looking.Posts,actually... this which makes me sigh n this which brings forth a smirk on my face!(I'd recommend going through the comments :p)
Hope there are no more comments made in a Valium-induced state of mind though >.>
What a 'great' way to start off the year![/sarcasm]
Also,Korey's female? *shot*
manlyseakitten
Otaku Legend | Posted 01/20/10 | Reply
Lol, internet.
Ace
Senile Hipster (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
@:
Yes, I confess. I actually kinda like Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World now.
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
So the drama. -3-;
Bazinga!
Ace
Senile Hipster (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
@reirei18 :
'S alright. I recently came across a quote that describes this whole thing perfectly.
We are all the main characters in our own stories. As such, we tend to assign supporting roles to those around us.
It's a common mistake, and I'm not gonna say I never make it.
And no, there's no money in it for me. :p
reirei18
reirei18.com (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
@Ace:
aeh.. im sorry.. i meant chat mods that are available whenever this happens.. XD of course we cant expect that everyone does their job every time.. ur not getting paid anyway.. are u..? lol... and besides, we have different opinions... ugh opinions.... but this is why the rules exist..
so in that sense, u are right and i agree...
*hugs* rei..~~<3
Ace
Senile Hipster (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
@reirei18 :
We do. We're just not omnipotent. We can't always be in chat, and there are times of the day when simply none of us can make it in.
Besides, I consider myself a member first and a mod second. I'm not there just to boot people who are causing a ruckus, I'm there to discuss my interests and have some fun. Quite frankly, even having to deal with someone puts a real damper on the next couple of hours of my day. That's not to say that I won't pull the plug on someone if I'm required to, though. It would be ideal if my services weren't required, but I like to believe that I perform them to the best of my ability.
As for you, Beth, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You clearly do this to the best of your ability as well, and you have much greater ability for this kind of thing than I do. Kudos.
Last edited by Ace at 2:00:08 AM EST on January 19, 2010.
reirei18
reirei18.com (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
omg...... TT^TT
so she was warned before with her previous account.. >x<" chat moderators should prevent this from happening.. kick them out of the chatroom if their topic is inappropriate.. letting them stay and continue the conversation will only offend the people who's coming in without knowing what's going on there so yeh.... *final sales cannot be returned* it's sad to see a great artist leave this community because of this.. =/
u have a really tough job.... o.o"
Last edited by reirei18 at 1:31:11 AM EST on January 19, 2010.
*hugs* rei..~~<3
Nathan
Good Old Reliable | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
Well Crystia mentioned that this had turned into a spectacle of people having a cow over a member being held accountable for disruptive behavior, but damn girl, I wasn't expecting this much stupidity.
Whatever happened to the golden rule of treating others how you'd like to be treated? Seems like now a days it's the "I didn't do anything rule" when you're caught behaving like an immature and petty child.
It's a pity that members are attacking you instead of appreciating all the hard work and utter nonsense that you put up with as a moderator.
Also, how someone could say they were a guy who was raped, when they are a girl, and then turn around and force attention on someone who didn't want it and claim they were only 'catting' around... think that was acceptable? That is just beyond me.
It's not funny it's not acceptable, it's just sad, pathetic and extremely immature. Especially when instead of apologizing for it, they went on to further insult them implying they had to be on their time of the month or something.
I don't envy you your job Beth, at all.
Ryu
Otaku Legend | Posted 01/19/10 | Reply
I've been sitting in my chair for the past twenty minutes trying to put some proper sense together from all of this...and I...it's just...feh.
First off, I just can't believe all the bad choices people are making. All of this stemmed from just one member. There's only so much havoc you can cause as a member on a social/interest site; how determined do you have to be to take it all the way? Not to mention such confrontation like the ones caused are so easy to avoid. Block user, ignore member, creating a different room/private chat, or just take it to another freakin' communication site/program; there's only a thousand of them out there. OR JUST MAYBE, click the inviting little X in the top right corner of your screen. It'd be one thing if they were talking about something intelligent, but 'Giving another member a hug?' Or talking about rape? I never knew rape was such a popular converstation topic. Last I checked, this site is about ANIME, and I really don't see a proper hentai section anywhere.
I've been in plenty (as well as the source of) a heated chat, but this....kinda makes me wonder how their real live conversations go.
-Ryu
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
One other thing, for those of you who got upset over not being allowed to turn chat into a dramariffic affair in regards to this paticular issue. Before you start yelling censorship and freedom of speech, I'd like you to read this little post here:
You Can't Censor Me! Uh... Actually, Yes I Can.
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
Driffter
Absentminded One (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@RedJ:
Ah, if only I knew where to find it. . .*::*sighs*::*
RedJ
Otaku Eternal | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@Driffter:
Seriously, what world do you speak of? Tell me so I can go there. :x
RedJ
Otaku Eternal | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
Because it needs to be posted.
might have to remove the <span> thing.
Driffter
Absentminded One (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
Why can't we get a decent banned person for once? One who doesn't come back and try to bite the bums of the mods, but somehow only manage to nip at their ankles? *::*sigh*::* What a utopia that would be.
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@TheDarkAngel:
Mods are most certainly not exempt, we've fired mods from the site in the past. People just assume we don't since we don't post about it.
As for not liking drama, you and me both, seriously. XP
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
TheDarkAngel
Pathetic Diabetic (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
The thing is, those rules DO apply to them. However, action can only be taken by someone higher than the mods.
So, if you have a complaint, take it to the higher ups.
I can't say anything will be done about it, but complaining is definitely NOT the option you want to take.
Choose your words carefully. Play fair. Things will happen as long as actions are taken.
Anyhoo, I'm done. I hate drama like this...
And, then... I met you.
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
I said it was over, any more comments that are nothing but insults will be deleted from now on.
I meant it when I said it's over.
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
Nehszriah
Hits Self With Axe (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@SunfallE:
I'm just glad you still do your job regardless over whether it's a pleasant thing or, well, this mud pit of petty childishness.
Be true, be you and of course, be otaku.
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@Nehszriah:
I know Nehs, seriously I know. *sigh* I was right there and saw the entire spectacle. Including the bit where the others were laughing over how much they got to otakuhostclub when they left. They were all, 'man that was so funny!'. So it was deliberate. The moment I moved out of stealth mode, someone instantly said, uh oh.
So yeah, the more they get upset and lie, the more I just facepalm over it since the ban is based on firsthand account and my having banned them for the same thing before and them even admitting they shouldn't do that kind of thing anymore.
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
SunfallE
Nyaa~ (ZE MEANIE) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
@TheDarkAngel:
But, let it be known, popularity saves NO ONE from the rules... :/
Exactly. No matter how popular you are, if you break the rules, you will be held accountable for it. Also, there are people who are popular and did have the maturity to own up to their mistakes and move on, like this member here:
Iruka Sensei: What Now?
So it's not like we won't work with someone who has made mistakes.
In the name of the tune I will punish you!
Nehszriah
Hits Self With Axe (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
The fact you had to make a separate post about how final means final like some exasperated parent is both hilarious and depressing at the same time.
Be true, be you and of course, be otaku.
TheDarkAngel
Pathetic Diabetic (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 01/18/10 | Reply
I understand and respect your decision, Sun-san. I think the only reason there's so much hype, however, is because AvariceTears was such a popular member.
But, let it be known, popularity saves NO ONE from the rules... :/
Last edited by TheDarkAngel at 10:29:51 PM EST on January 18, 2010.
And, then... I met you.