I never said Frozen had gender equality, I'm saying other people have. I've heard people say that because the "true love" was between two sisters, Frozen was the first Disney movie to have anything resembling gender equality.
And I'm not saying Mulan was about gender equality, either - I'm saying it had gender equality because it had a strong female protagonist with an honest motive to do what she does that has nothing to do with falling in love with a boy.
Actually Mulan didn't showcase gender equality, it was set in China during the Northern Wei dynasty (386–536) not long after the Three Kingdoms. According to the legends she did go in her elderly fathers place and served in the army for 12 years and refused reward upon finishing her 12 years, when the same army came to see her they found out she was a woman. Her motives were not to say that she's a woman and she can fight but rather "My father is too old to fight and my brother is too young, (In the poem she does have a younger brother) I shall fight so he does not die" that's not a feminist motive, that's a motive driven by love. It's a good story but historically accurate to the time period. If you want a story about a woman warrior fighting against gender prejudice then look at Sengoku Period Warrior Ginchiyo Tachibana.
As for Frozen, what gender equality? Anna & Elsa are the only two named female characters in the whole story who just so happened to be the lead characters. Elsa is Queen by virtue of being the eldest and isolation kind of puts off possible princes as does killer ice powers. Anna spends most of the film trying to avoid freezing to death after the whole romance thing goes horribly wrong and finally I don't think Kristoff was even interested.
And yes you get a cookie, it was the musical Wicked as Idina Menzel played the title character of that musical.
"Wicked" Snow Queen could be referencing either The Chronicles of Narnia or Wicked (as in the musical). Not sure which.
And honestly I seriously hate how everyone's talking about how Disney is finally jumping on the gender equality train with Frozen, because it still focuses too heavily on romance and almost portrays males in a negative light this time, whereas Mulan treats everyone as equal (girls dress up as boys, boys dress up as girls), and Mulan didn't even consider a romance until after the climax. And Mulan came out long before Frozen did, yet no one thinks to comment on how it has much more gender equality, not to mention a better plotline, dialogue and (at least, in my opinion) music.
KyraChan
Grand Otaku | Posted 12/21/14 | Reply
@Dranzerstorm:
Okay, I will. *takes cookie* Thanks!
Dranzerstorm
Master of Lists (Senior Otaku) | Posted 12/21/14 | Reply
@KyraChan:
Being honest it's a tricky one to judge. *Offers Cookie* Cookies are good. Look forward to the next review it's a good one.
KyraChan
Grand Otaku | Posted 12/21/14 | Reply
@Dranzerstorm:
I never said Frozen had gender equality, I'm saying other people have. I've heard people say that because the "true love" was between two sisters, Frozen was the first Disney movie to have anything resembling gender equality.
And I'm not saying Mulan was about gender equality, either - I'm saying it had gender equality because it had a strong female protagonist with an honest motive to do what she does that has nothing to do with falling in love with a boy.
And yay~ I like cookies.
Dranzerstorm
Master of Lists (Senior Otaku) | Posted 12/20/14 | Reply
@KyraChan:
Actually Mulan didn't showcase gender equality, it was set in China during the Northern Wei dynasty (386–536) not long after the Three Kingdoms. According to the legends she did go in her elderly fathers place and served in the army for 12 years and refused reward upon finishing her 12 years, when the same army came to see her they found out she was a woman. Her motives were not to say that she's a woman and she can fight but rather "My father is too old to fight and my brother is too young, (In the poem she does have a younger brother) I shall fight so he does not die" that's not a feminist motive, that's a motive driven by love. It's a good story but historically accurate to the time period. If you want a story about a woman warrior fighting against gender prejudice then look at Sengoku Period Warrior Ginchiyo Tachibana.
As for Frozen, what gender equality? Anna & Elsa are the only two named female characters in the whole story who just so happened to be the lead characters. Elsa is Queen by virtue of being the eldest and isolation kind of puts off possible princes as does killer ice powers. Anna spends most of the film trying to avoid freezing to death after the whole romance thing goes horribly wrong and finally I don't think Kristoff was even interested.
And yes you get a cookie, it was the musical Wicked as Idina Menzel played the title character of that musical.
KyraChan
Grand Otaku | Posted 12/20/14 | Reply
"Wicked" Snow Queen could be referencing either The Chronicles of Narnia or Wicked (as in the musical). Not sure which.
And honestly I seriously hate how everyone's talking about how Disney is finally jumping on the gender equality train with Frozen, because it still focuses too heavily on romance and almost portrays males in a negative light this time, whereas Mulan treats everyone as equal (girls dress up as boys, boys dress up as girls), and Mulan didn't even consider a romance until after the climax. And Mulan came out long before Frozen did, yet no one thinks to comment on how it has much more gender equality, not to mention a better plotline, dialogue and (at least, in my opinion) music.