Vagrant AI (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/08/08 | Reply
Indeed, endorphins, yes, hmm. *smokes cornpipe*
But seriously now, I agree with the last part. I can't possibly sleep if my mind is bouncing from one subject to the next (although that typically happens every night anyway). I have to concentrate my mind specifically on "Sleeeep" before I actually start getting drowsy.
Personally, I think bathing before sleeping might actually help. Right after I made that comment in Chatlogs, I took my regular evening bath before going to sleep. Once I came back to the computer to do some last-minute changes to my projects, I actually felt that I became more sleepy. Then again, it must have been a self-fulfilling prophecy or boredom from the project.
Or, like I mentioned, the endorphins stimulated by the shower.
=D
That, and Adam had been mumbling about it for a while, so I thought I'd look and see if there was anything worthwhile.
Last edited by Allamorph at 10:32:58 AM EDT on October 8, 2008.
Never thought that sleep advice I gave in Chatlogs would be a topic in The Watercooler. Well, I can't argue with you on this one, since I'm simply a guy who heard a little bit about how baths help people get to sleep. I was actually sleepy when I made that comment.
Sleep specialists have long debated whether the nighttime drop in temperature induces sleep or follows it. One theory is that is simply the result of lying down and curtailing physical activity.
Personally, I think bathing before sleeping might actually help. Right after I made that comment in Chatlogs, I took my regular evening bath before going to sleep. Once I came back to the computer to do some last-minute changes to my projects, I actually felt that I became more sleepy. Then again, it must have been a self-fulfilling prophecy or boredom from the project.
I feel I should point out that what I was talking about was not being cold or hot, but becoming cooler or warmer. The exact temperature you need to fall asleep is rather irrelevant to me, since although I like being warm when I sleep, I currently use only a comforter, with no sheets at all. And I can sleep cold or hot, as long as I decide it's time for a nap. =P
But yeah, it's not the specific temperature, it's the change in temperature, like position and velocity. I do not believe that the direction of the change is important, as long as the change is stimulating endorphins.
I'm the oddball out, it would seem. Warmth, though it may make me drowsy after a meal, doesn't induce sleep. It prohibits it. I have been diagnosed with an internal temperature gauge problem, though, so my case is most likely one of a very small minority. I often sleep with little more than a sheet, sometimes not even that. My sleep is fitful at best when I'm warm. I should really live somewhere colder. =(
Miss Anonymous: ARE YOU CALLING THE PLIGHT OF PIZZA EVERYWHERE STUPID?!?!? >:O
Dr. Mama Cat. (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I agree, cooling down tends to wake me up instead of putting me to sleep. I like fluffy blankets and being all nice and cozy. I absoutely hate being cold, even in a shower, so that would just annoy me instead of helping me sleep.
I've heard several different theories before, but yours I agree with the most, Alla. I've heard before that taking a shower right before you go to bed isn't good, but that was from one person. I'm trusting the majority here, especially after tests being done.
I've had severe insomnia bouts before, and the same as you, it's just from my inability to stop thinking. Not particularly 'cooling down'. I prefer to be warm anywho.
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
Considering how skinny I am, it's hard for me to hold in heat, so I would disagree with the cooling down theory as well. I also gunk up quite a bit overnight, so I shower in the morning to be sure I'm clean and ready for the day ahead.
To help promote drowsiness, I either watch TV in bed or listen to music.
Miss Anonymous
Vagrant AI (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/08/08 | Reply
Indeed, endorphins, yes, hmm. *smokes cornpipe*
But seriously now, I agree with the last part. I can't possibly sleep if my mind is bouncing from one subject to the next (although that typically happens every night anyway). I have to concentrate my mind specifically on "Sleeeep" before I actually start getting drowsy.
Allamorph
Spiritus Memorae (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/08/08 | Reply
@The Mask:
Personally, I think bathing before sleeping might actually help. Right after I made that comment in Chatlogs, I took my regular evening bath before going to sleep. Once I came back to the computer to do some last-minute changes to my projects, I actually felt that I became more sleepy. Then again, it must have been a self-fulfilling prophecy or boredom from the project.
Or, like I mentioned, the endorphins stimulated by the shower.
=D
That, and Adam had been mumbling about it for a while, so I thought I'd look and see if there was anything worthwhile.
Last edited by Allamorph at 10:32:58 AM EDT on October 8, 2008.
The Mask
Detective Mask (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/08/08 | Reply
Never thought that sleep advice I gave in Chatlogs would be a topic in The Watercooler. Well, I can't argue with you on this one, since I'm simply a guy who heard a little bit about how baths help people get to sleep. I was actually sleepy when I made that comment.
That link I gave out (http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/temp.html) did mention a few statements that would actually make your argument valid:
Sleep specialists have long debated whether the nighttime drop in temperature induces sleep or follows it. One theory is that is simply the result of lying down and curtailing physical activity.
Personally, I think bathing before sleeping might actually help. Right after I made that comment in Chatlogs, I took my regular evening bath before going to sleep. Once I came back to the computer to do some last-minute changes to my projects, I actually felt that I became more sleepy. Then again, it must have been a self-fulfilling prophecy or boredom from the project.
"Students, be ambitious!"
jomz
Otaku Summoner (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
@Allamorph:
never thought of it as such... you just need to find the right temperature change, huh?
I prefer cooler - since it's terribly warm over here...
Shinmaru
Baron of Terribad (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
@Allamorph:
Haha. I'll consider myself warned, anyway, just for you.
Love thy Evangelion.
Allamorph
Spiritus Memorae (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
@Shinmaru:
Well, weren't talking to you specifically, but right now we can't mass-reply, so I had to pick someone.
Not like I could warn you, so....=P
Shinmaru
Baron of Terribad (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
@Allamorph:
Yeah, I know. Everyone was just replying the way they did, so I wanted to do the same. :P
Love thy Evangelion.
Allamorph
Spiritus Memorae (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
@Shinmaru:
I feel I should point out that what I was talking about was not being cold or hot, but becoming cooler or warmer. The exact temperature you need to fall asleep is rather irrelevant to me, since although I like being warm when I sleep, I currently use only a comforter, with no sheets at all. And I can sleep cold or hot, as long as I decide it's time for a nap. =P
But yeah, it's not the specific temperature, it's the change in temperature, like position and velocity. I do not believe that the direction of the change is important, as long as the change is stimulating endorphins.
Shinmaru
Baron of Terribad (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I need to be cool to sleep -- if my fan is not pointing straight me, then I am not getting to sleep unless I am insanely tired.
Love thy Evangelion.
TwistedCyberChick
Grand Otaku | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I'm the oddball out, it would seem. Warmth, though it may make me drowsy after a meal, doesn't induce sleep. It prohibits it. I have been diagnosed with an internal temperature gauge problem, though, so my case is most likely one of a very small minority. I often sleep with little more than a sheet, sometimes not even that. My sleep is fitful at best when I'm warm. I should really live somewhere colder. =(
Miss Anonymous: ARE YOU CALLING THE PLIGHT OF PIZZA EVERYWHERE STUPID?!?!? >:O
Indi
Dr. Mama Cat. (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I agree, cooling down tends to wake me up instead of putting me to sleep. I like fluffy blankets and being all nice and cozy. I absoutely hate being cold, even in a shower, so that would just annoy me instead of helping me sleep.
~Crystia
mewmewpudding
Otaku Eternal | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I've heard several different theories before, but yours I agree with the most, Alla. I've heard before that taking a shower right before you go to bed isn't good, but that was from one person. I'm trusting the majority here, especially after tests being done.
I've had severe insomnia bouts before, and the same as you, it's just from my inability to stop thinking. Not particularly 'cooling down'. I prefer to be warm anywho.
Thanks for the information! :]
TimeChaser
Madman With a Box (Otaku Eternal) | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
Considering how skinny I am, it's hard for me to hold in heat, so I would disagree with the cooling down theory as well. I also gunk up quite a bit overnight, so I shower in the morning to be sure I'm clean and ready for the day ahead.
To help promote drowsiness, I either watch TV in bed or listen to music.
Bazinga!
Sabrina
Otaku Archangel | Posted 10/07/08 | Reply
I actually sleep better if I'm all warm and cozy. Taking a shower or doing things that make me cold... just keep me awake. o_O
-Sabrina
Last edited by SabrinaM at 5:41:53 PM EDT on October 7, 2008.